Two delusional besties telling
each other exactly.
"Honest, hilarious, and surprisingly therapeutic — like calling your best friend at midnight."
— A listener review
We're two 43-year-old best friends who've been telling each other the truth — the real truth — for over a decade. We met in the chaotic overlap of motherhood, ambition, and marriage, and we've never stopped talking since.
Proof of Life is our attempt to bottle that 2am phone call energy and share it. We talk about the things that feel too specific to say out loud — and then discover they're completely universal.
Built a business, raised a family, and is still figuring out how to do both — simultaneously, imperfectly, and loudly.
Believes in planning everything and improvising most of it. Married, opinionated, and deeply committed to keeping it honest.
We say the things you're thinking but haven't said out loud yet. No softening, no disclaimers.
Life is heavy. We make it lighter. Not by pretending — by laughing directly at the hard stuff.
We're not influencers. We're in it. Motherhood, business, marriage — all of it, unfiltered.